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Tony Manero

John,

Cops get out of line ALL the time. However JUSTICE almost always prevails in the US unlike MANY MANY nations in the world. Much like YOUR home country. I have more faith that this "cop" will pay the piper here than I would in most other nations. If the criminal system fails then the "civil" sytem probably won't. Little luck and BOTH nail him. I bet you LUNCH in Cambridge and BEER to boot that in the end justice will be served.

John

I would have had no doubt about the issue had the County Sheriff treated it like a crime had happened. Remember he was unprofessional in his conduct. Eyewitnesses say that the boys were unarmed.

Maybe I ought to have been clearer about this, it's not about Doug Bates. It's about the Sheriff's office "seemingly" bending over backwards to get Bates off the hook. I would imagine that if they did not treat it as a crime scene, then they didn't necessarily collect the correct evidence or not. Who knows?

Bates may or may not get his due. The sheriff's office will not be arraigned for their arrogance and negligence. The Chmait family deserved better than for this travesty to not be treated as a crime!

ShawarmaBoy

If the issue is pressed the Sheriff's office can be held accountable for botching an investigation. Happens all the time. I have seen it happen more than once here in New England with local Sheriff's offices. Two of them and several staff wound up in jail for participation in cover ups and negligence. Civil suits are another issue. The Civil law suit is the GREAT Equalizer in this country and should be used if there is merit.

Since this case is before a GRAND JURY and on the slightest chance the Grand Jury does not indict I have confidence in the legal system that the inquiry was fair and just. The common joke in the US is you can indict a ham sandwich before a Grand Jury. Cases like these can MAKE the LOCAL DA's or State AG's career. The fact the local DA or State's AG has pushed for a Grand Jury is a POSITIVE SIGN. As a whole the American public has no appetite for police running afoul of the law. While we understand by pure numbers alone there will always be problems, we don't like it. Doesn't matter if it's people in Boston, OKC, Provo or LA.

Justice will almost always prevail here. Sometimes slower than it should but it nearly always resolves itself. Could take months or sadly years. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement professionals. But when someone who is in "law enforcement" breaks the law himself justice must be harsher than if the person was a normal citizen or resident.

John

I certainly hope that justice will prevail. I have every respect for the Police myself. Three of my friends have gone through the Academy. Only one is currently a badge carrying officer. Tells you that they're not just handing a gun and a badge to anybody. Near every professional law enforcement officer I have met has been a credit to the community. Upstanding individuals who have very seldom given me reason to be annoyed, much less suspicious.

I've dealt with all manner of officers, State, County, City, Campus and Park Police. My father went on a ride-along last winter. In my community I've felt nothing but honored and respected in my dealings with them.

Justice is about ensuring that the authority of the badge is never under suspicion. This is about guaranteeing that the powers vested in public office are NEVER abused.

ShawarmaBoy

Your version/definition of "justice" implies something that is impossible even under IDEAL conditions. Which under any form of government is impossible. All we can hope for and demand is when suspicion (just suspicion) of those in authority is in question that a JUST and FAIR inquest will be held. When abuse is found that is DEALT with accordingly and not brushed under the carpet. I think for the most part we do this. When I say deal with accordingly, LAW ENFORCEMENT officers must be held to a higher personal threshold than your average "John Doe" This helps insure the public trust. A Police officer in my town can be fired for bouncing a check or for even getting a speeding ticket.

We have very high standards in the US for law enforcement. It is not perfect nor can it ever be. I will always maintain that you can hold our State, local and National law enforcement officers with high regard. Sadly there will always be those that cause problems.

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